The Ready Room: A Star Trek Podcast (deep space nine)

DS9 at 25.

It’s been a quarter century since Benjamin Sisko arrived at one of the Federation’s most remote outposts—Deep Space 9—and began a journey of self discovery that would turn the Star Trek model on its head. Overshadowed by The Next Generation and then Voyager, Deep Space Nine quietly flew under the radar and developed into a series that would later emerge as what many consider the franchise’s crown jewel. It’s a show that fans are rediscovering—and some are discovering for the first time—in this age of streaming and binge-watching. And it has stood the test of time in a remarkable way.

In this episode of The Ready Room, C Bryan Jones and Larry Nemecek look back at 25 years of Deep Space Nine, discussing its development, premiere, the roles of Rick Berman and Michael Piller, why the love fans have for the show continues to grow, and much more.

In our news segment, we consider the camaraderie of past Star Trek casts in light of Jonathan Frakes’s comments about the crew of Discovery, check out the 4-disc La-La Land Records Deep Space Nine Volume 2 Limited Edition music collection, and remember Jon Paul Steuer, the actor who played young Alexander on The Next Generation. Plus, Larry has a special announcement about activity detected in Trekland.

Chapters
Intro (00:00:00)
Remembering Jon Paul Steuer (00:04:16)
How Close Were the Casts of Each Series? (00:10:02)
La-La Land Records DS9 Volume 2 (00:18:53)
The Trek Files (00:26:38)
Feature: DS9 at 25 (00:41:06)
Developing Deep Space Nine (00:46:19)
Setting Up the Story (01:06:51)
The Roles of Rick Berman and Michael Piller (01:21:59)
TOS Nodes (01:30:35)
Surprising Ira (01:33:01)
Standing the Test of Time (01:35:47)
Final Thoughts (01:53:06)
Closing (01:48:32)

Hosts
C Bryan Jones and Larry Nemecek

Production
C Bryan Jones (Editor and Producer) Ken Tripp (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Associate Producer) Renee Roberts (Associate Producer) Zachary Fruhling (Associate Producer) Sam Piassick (Associate Producer) Kay Elizabeth Shaw (Associate Producer) Tim Robertson (Associate Producer) David Shuford (Associate Producer) Joo Kim (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Brandon-Shea Mutala (Patreon Manager)

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Category:Deep Space Nine -- posted at: 7:46am MDT

210: Disastrous Consequences

Crossover.

Sometimes actions can have unexpected consequences. Such was the case in The Original Series when Kirk convinced Mirror Spock to turn the Terran Empire from evil to good. Only he didn’t know it. Kirk had the best intentions, but maybe there was a reason the Terrans were the way they were. We learned the result of Kirk’s speech in the Deep Space Nine episode “Crossover,” the first of many trips to the Mirror Universe for the DS9 crew.

In this episode of The Ready Room, we’re joined by Zachary Fruhling, Rumman Chowdhury, and Brandon-Shea Mutala to discuss the first onscreen foray into the Mirror Universe since TOS. Beginning with Kirk’s actions, we continue on to explore the disastrous consequences his words had for the humans of this universe, how oppression impacts lives, and how sexuality can be used to wield power over others. We also discuss various DS9 characters and their mirror counterparts, and how circumstances bring out different traits.

Plus, in our news segment we discuss the lineup of events and panels scheduled for Star Trek: Mission New York.

News
Star Trek: Mission New York Rundown (00:03:20)

Feature: Crossover
Initial Thoughts (00:24:36)
The Divergence (00:36:28)
DS9’s Take on the Mirror Universe (00:37:45)
Odo: Same of Different? (00:44:59)
Kira, The Intendant, and Sexuality (00:53:33)
Mirror Garak (01:02:31)
Kira Outsmarting Kira (01:10:23)
Smiley and the Weight of Oppression (01:16:30)
Final Thoughts (01:24:34)

Hosts
C Bryan Jones and Zachary Fruhling

Guests
Rumman Chowdhury and Brandon-Shea Mutala

Production
C Bryan Jones (News Editor and Producer) Matthew Rushing (Feature Editor and Executive Producer) Charlynn Schmiedt (Executive Producer) Ken Tripp (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Associate Producer) Renee Roberts (Associate Producer) Zachary Fruhling (Associate Producer) Sam Piassick (Associate Producer) Kay Elizabeth Janeway (Associate Producer) Tim Robertson (Associate Producer) David Shuford (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager)

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Category:Deep Space Nine -- posted at: 5:38am MDT

203: The Orb of These Things Happen

Things Past.

We know that Odo has a colored past. He held the post of security chief under the regime of Gul Dukat during the occupation of Bajor. As an outsider, he would seem to be the ideal candidate to protect the Bajorans from unchecked Cardassian brutality. But while he sees himself as the voice of justice, a strict adherence to policy can lead to wrong decisions. That’s what happened when he allowed three innocent Bajorans to be executed on his watch.

In this episode of The Ready Room, we’re joined Mike Schindler, Mike Morrison, and Brandon-Shea Mutala to discuss the delayed aftermath of that event in the episode “Things Past.” It’s a unique semi-flashback story that puts Odo in the shoes of one of the executed men—along with Sisko and Garak. Join us as we discuss Odo’s choices, how DS9 builds its mythology, Quark during the Occupation, Kira’s powerful moment, and much more.

Plus, in our news segment, we discuss the writing team for the new Star Trek television series as well as the many flavors of Star Trek Beyond that are headed to theaters—including IMAX, IMAX Laser, Dolby Cinema, and the very unique Barco Escape.

News
The Star Trek 2017 Writing Team (00:03:05)
The Various Star Trek Beyond Film Formats (00:17:02)

Feature: Things Past
Synopsis and Initial Thoughts (00:28:24)
A Glimpse of Terok Nor (00:37:27)
Building the Mythology (00:41:49)
Who’s Talking to Whom? (00:45:39)
All in My Head? (00:59:12)
A Time Travel Workaround (01:09:00)
Effectively Kira (01:20:15)
Dukat Behaving Nicely (01:28:00)
Final Thoughts (01:30:59)

Hosts
C Bryan Jones and Mike Schindler

Guests
Mike Morrison and Brandon-Shea Mutala

Production
C Bryan Jones (Editor and Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Executive Producer) Charlynn Schmiedt (Executive Producer) Renee Roberts (Associate Producer) Zachary Fruhling (Associate Producer) Sam Piassick (Associate Producer) Kay Elizabeth Janeway (Associate Producer) Tim Robertson (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Will Nguyen (Content Manager)

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Category:Deep Space Nine -- posted at: 5:30am MDT

197: Life with the Safeties On

It’s Only a Paper Moon.

Events in Star Trek—even tragic ones—rarely have lasting consequences. Deep Space Nine changed that with arcs that took place during the Dominion War. In particular, in the final season, Nog’s injuries in battle led to a deep exploration of the lasting impact of a single moment in time—and they did it with the usual DS9 mix of serious commentary and humor.

In this episode of The Ready Room, we’re joined by Zachary Fruhling and Matthew Rushing to discuss Nog’s retreat to the holosuite, his struggle to come to terms with the physical and emotional damage of his experiences in “The Siege of AR-558,” and the counseling tag-team of Ezri Dax and Vic Fontaine who brought him back to reality.

In our news segment, we discuss additional shooting (reported as reshoots by most media) for Star Trek Beyond, a special agreement between CBS and Paramount that dictated a six-month post-film waiting period for Star Trek’s return to TV, and Rod Roddenberry joining the new series as Executive Producer.

News
Star Trek Beyond Reshoots (00:04:19)
CBS-Paramount Agreement (00:12:44)
Rod Roddenberry EP (00:26:24)

Feature: It’s Only a Paper Moon
Synopsis and Initial Thoughts (00:34:46)
Nog’s PTSD (00:45:49)
Counselor Ezri (00:56:25)
Counselor Vic (01:09:15)
The Original Concept (01:24:26)
The Literary Universe Connection (01:36:21)
Final Thoughts (01:37:27)
Listener Feedback and Closing (01:44:54)

Hosts
C Bryan Jones and Zachary Fruhling

Guest
Matthew Rushing

Production
C Bryan Jones (Editor and Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Executive Producer) Charlynn Schmiedt (Executive Producer) Renee Roberts (Associate Producer) Zachary Fruhling (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Will Nguyen (Content Manager)

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Category:Deep Space Nine -- posted at: 5:30am MDT

192: Even the Devil Believes

In the Hands of the Prophets.

At the end of its first season, Deep Space Nine really began to take on the form that would define the series. The writers wanted to follow up the powerful “Duet” with something even better, even more layered. To do this, they brought together the Federation’s scientific approach to the world and the Bajorans’ religious one. The clash of philosophies tells us a lot about our own world as well as Gene Roddenberry’s vision for Star Trek. And it introduced us to one of Star Trek’s great villains.

In this episode of The Ready Room, we’re joined by Will Nguyen, Mike Morrison, and Ken Tripp to discuss DS9’s first-season finale, “In the Hands of the Prophets,” the introduction of Winn and Bareil, handling religion on Star Trek, Keiko the grumpy, Sisko the mediator, and much more.

In our news segment, we discuss the comments of Paramount’s Motion Picture Group president Marc Evan about a possible grittier future for Star Trek, and Dayton Ward’s upcoming travel guide that will get you ready for your visit to Vulcan.

News
Star Trek: Thirty Dark Zero or SEAL Team Six? (00:03:37)
Hidden Universe Travel Guide to Vulcan (00:12:26)

Feature: In the Hands of the Prophets
Synopsis and Initial Thoughts (00:23:31)
Setting the Tone (00:33:45)
Representing Roddenberry’s Vision (00:48:04)
Handling a Sensitive Subject (00:53:47)
The Thesis of Secularism (01:00:23)
Winn and Kira: Religion vs. Spirituality (01:09:20)
Introducing Fletcher’s Winn and Anglim’s Bareil (01:17:55)
Final Thoughts (01:25:41)
Listener Feedback (01:36:01)

Hosts
C Bryan Jones and Will Nguyen

Guests
Mike Morrison and Ken Tripp

Production
C Bryan Jones (Editor and Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Executive Producer) Charlynn Schmiedt (Executive Producer) Renee Roberts (Associate Producer) Zachary Fruhling (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Will Nguyen (Content Manager)

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Category:Deep Space Nine -- posted at: 9:57pm MDT

186: Giant Life-Altering Enigma

The Visitor.

One of Deep Space Nine’s most loved episodes is an enigma in and of itself. Focusing on just one main character, played by someone other than the normal actor, “The Visitor” highlights the power of DS9’s concept to tell character-driven stories that transcend the usual Star Trek formula. This tale of Jake Sisko’s life after losing his father in a freak accident tugs at the heartstrings for so many viewers—and the intensity of this effect depends on your own life experiences.

In this episode of The Ready Room, we’re joined by Will Nguyen, Phillip Gilfus, and Jeremy Reed to discuss the unusual concept, the performances of Tony Todd and Rachel Robinson, the father-son relationship between Benjamin and Jake Sisko, how Star Trek uses the future time frame, and much more.

In our news segment, we discuss the VFX fixes found only in the Netflix version of TNG, and share our thoughts on the diverse and Star Wars-like aliens found in the Abramsverse.

 

Hosts

C Bryan Jones and Nguyen

 

Guests

Phillip Gilfus and Jeremy Reed

 

Editor and Producer

C Bryan Jones

 

Executive Producers

Matthew Rushing and Norman C. Lao

 

Associate Producers

Renee Roberts and Zachary Fruhling

 

Production Manager

Richard Marquez

 

Content Manager

Will Nguyen

 

News

TNG Visual Fixes for Netflix (00:06:57)

The Aliens of the Abramsverse: Good or Bad? (00:17:03)

 

Feature: The Visitor

Synopsis and Initial Thoughts (00:26:34)

The Concept (00:38:40)

Tony Todd as Jake Sisko (00:46:49)

Mental Health in the Future (00:54:22)

Remember (01:02:26)

Jake’s Path (01:08:11)

Father and Son (01:12:49)

Rachel Robinson (01:17:24)

The Future Time Frame (01:22:46)

Star Trek’s Best? (01:32:24)

Final Thoughts (01:39:28)

 

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Category:Deep Space Nine -- posted at: 10:04am MDT

180: You’ve Got Mail!

His Way.

When you can start a show with a lengthy cold-open featuring a tuxedo-clad James Darren crooning a jazz standard—and do it on a Cardassian-built space station in the 24th century—you know you’ve got something special. And that’s just what the Deep Space Nine writers did near the end of the show’s sixth season with “His Way.” It was the culmination of a game a romantic cat-and-mouse between Odo and Kira, but also solidified a creative freedom that would ensure that DS9’s final season would not be hindered by a studio that would make the show square.

In this episode of The Ready Room we’re joined by Will Nguyen, Sue Kaye, and Jeffrey Harlan to discuss how a light bulb with pretty sweet pipes gave DS9 a special twist, what he meant to the Station’s crew, holographic rights, the Odo-Kira relationship, and more.

In our news segment we debate the results of StarTrek.com’s DS9 Captains poll, discuss the first Trek.fm Patrons Roundtable, and remember James Horner, who brought us so many great film scores.

 

Hosts

C Bryan Jones and Will Nguyen

 

Guests

Sue Kaye and Jeffrey Harlan

 

Editor and Producer

C Bryan Jones

 

Executive Producers

Matthew Rushing and Norman C. Lao

 

Associate Producer

Renee Roberts and Zachary Fruhling

 

Production Manager

Richard Marquez

 

Content Manager

Will Nguyen

 

News

Remembering James Horner (00:04:29)

The first Trek.fm Patrons Roundtable (00:09:01)

Poll: The DS9 Character who would make the best captain is… (00:14:39)

 

Feature: His Way

Intro and Synopsis (00:23:15)

Initial Thoughts (00:27:18)

DS9 Gets Jazzy: Introducing Vic (00:30:54)

AI and Sentience: An Ethical Quandary (00:39:11)

Three Couples Walk Into a Bar… (00:50:18)

Don’t Be a Square: Prepping Odo for Romance (00:57:31)

A Loving Outcome (01:13:37)

Pairing Off On the Station (01:23:54)

Final Thoughts (01:29:50)

Closing (01:37:02)

 

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Category:Deep Space Nine -- posted at: 8:25am MDT

174: Klingon Courting for Dummies

Looking for par’Mach In All the Wrong Places.

Sometimes love is staring you right in the face, and other times you have to search for it. Both were the case when Grilka, Quark’s ex-wife, came aboard the Station. Smitten with the unattainable and “glorious” Klingon Lady, Worf decided to win her heart by proxy when he concocted a plan to help Quark reconnect with his lost love. To pull it off, Worf employed the help of the woman whose heart he could have, if only he’d wake up and smell the raktajino.   

In this episode of The Ready Room we’re joined by Matthew Rushing and Will Nguyen to discuss Deep Space Nine’s foray into romantic comedy, “Looking for par’Mach In All the Wrong Places.” We explore its basis in Edmond Rostand’s Cyrano de Bergerac, the comedic timing of Michael Dorn, Terry Farrell, and Armin Shimerman, why Worf is riddled with contradictions, and, of course, the blossoming romantic tendencies of the other O’Briens.

In our news segment we discuss the Certificate of Commendation Star Trek Fan Club and Communicator founder Dan Madsen received from Colorado State Representative Paul Rosenthal, and Paramount’s upcoming release of The Wrath of Khan as a steelbook.

 

Hosts

Christopher Jones and Matthew Rushing

 

Guest

Will Nguyen

 

Editor and Producer

Christopher Jones

 

Associate Producer

Renee Roberts

 

Production Manager

Richard Marquez

 

Content Coordinator

Will Nguyen

 

News

Trek Legislative Caucus Honors Dan Madsen (00:04:19)

Paramount to Release Wrath of Khan Steelbook (00:12:01)

 

Feature: Looking for par’Mach In All the Wrong Places

Intro and Synopsis (00:19:13)

First Thoughts (00:22:10)

Playing Comedy (00:26:21)

Cyrano de Bergerac In Reverse (00:28:12)

Riddled with Contradictions (00:38:43)

The Kelp of Discontent (00:47:27)

The Other O’Briens (00:57:41)

Final Thoughts (01:09:00)

Closing (01:17:04)

 

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Category:Deep Space Nine -- posted at: 12:54am MDT

167: The Tale of Three Vipers

Destiny.

When Sisko first arrives at Bajor in “Emissary,” he learns that he is viewed by the Bajorans as a religious icon. It’s an identity he struggles with through much of the series, but eventually comes to terms with. By “Rapture” at the midpoint of Season Five, Sisko has fully embrace prophecy and matters of Bajoran faith are guiding many of his actions. The road to “Rapture” was a long one, however. The easily overlooked linchpin is the third-season episode “Destiny,” a quiet story about scientific cooperation between Cardassia, Bajor, and the Federation.

In this episode of The Ready Room we’re joined by John Mills and Norman Lao to discuss this short-lived thawing of relations between warring factions, the religious and political forces tugging at the process, how Trakor’s Third Prophecy is a turning point for both Kira and Sisko, how our own views and agendas color our interpretation of Deep Space Nine, and how “Destiny” plays into Sisko’s overall character arc.

In our news segment we discuss Paramount’s decision to airlock Orci, whether or not Frakes could actually take the helm, and what the various rumored directors could mean for the film and Star Trek. We also debate the results of StarTrek.com’s poll about which series made the best use of the holodeck.

 

Hosts

Christopher Jones and John W. Mills

 

Guest

Norman C. Lao

 

Editor and Producer

Christopher Jones

 

Associate Producer

Renee Roberts

 

Production Manager

Richard Marquez

 

Content Coordinator

Will Nguyen

 

News

Paramount dumps Orci. Could Frakes take command? (00:02:57)

Poll:  The Star Trek series that made the best use of the holodeck was... (00:13:24)

 

Feature: Destiny

Intro and Synopsis (00:19:36)

All In on Faith (00:22:47)

Scientific Cooperation (00:25:46)

Diversity and Interpretation (00:38:06)

Testing Sisko’s Faith (00:47:51)

Agendas and Viewpoints (00:58:44)

Final Thoughts (01:05:04)

Closing (01:10:15)

 

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Category:Deep Space Nine -- posted at: 3:07am MDT

162: The Man Who Killed Vreenak Valance

In the Pale Moonlight.

Star Trek fans often question Sisko’s methods. As Starfleet captains go—at least those we saw as leads—Sisko is perhaps the least likely to do things “by the book.” One act that is cited most often is Sisko’s decision to bring the Romulans into the Dominion War, the deceptions he concocted together with Garak, and the fact that, in the end, he was okay with it. “In the Pale Moonlight” is frequently praised as one of the best episodes of not only DS9 but of Star Trek, yet there are also those who see it as a betrayal of Gene Roddenberry’s vision of the future.

In this episode of The Ready Room we’re joined by Matthew Rushing, Jeremy Reed, and Jaime Sanchez to discuss “In the Pale Moonlight,” why it remains one of Star Trek’s most controversial yet satisfying moments, and why real life sometimes pushes people to compromise their own values for the greater good.

In our news segment, we discuss the future implications of CBS All Access for Star Trek, find out what’s waiting for you in Larry Nemecek’s Trekland Trunk, explain how you can help get Star Trek creatives on the panels for Destination Star Trek London 2016, and help you create a night of spooky Treks for Halloween.

Hosts
Christopher Jones and Matthew Rushing

Guests
Jeremy Reed and Jaime Sanchez

Editor and Producer
Christopher Jones

Associate Producer
Renee Roberts

News
CBS brings Star Trek to its new streaming service (4:22)
Help bring Star Trek creatives to Destination Star Trek London 2016 (18:43)
The Trekland Trunk overflowing with treasures once again (22:40)
Spook Treks: Star Trek episodes for Halloween (26:23)
Sponsor: Audible (33:55)

Feature: In the Pale Moonlight
Intro and Synopsis (35:58)
Initial Thoughts (38:55)
A Unique Framework (44:15)
Earlier Drafts (54:01)
Questionable Actions (58:35)
The Importance of Romulans (1:10:38)
A Sisko-Garak Joint (1:17:29)
Erasing the Log (1:29:25)
Final Thoughts (1:36:24)
Closing (1:43:59)

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Category:Deep Space Nine -- posted at: 8:03am MDT